Gardening the Garden

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This, for apparently having a different view from someone else (( It is thus apparently used as a general term of abuse especially if you don’t like what the other person has said – or perhaps as a defence if you’ve been caught-out bullshitting. Regards    John Riley    West Oz

John, I’ll have to agree with the above statement.  Seems like some "gunslingers" in the newsgroups think a quick denouncal of someone’s credibility can stand in the place of a sound reply.  If we have diametrically opposing viewpoints, an interesting discussion is possible(as long as we keep it civil).  I’ve also seen the mention of killfiles being used…this also illustrating the fact that if I’m not "in the group" or not being politically correct, I will be shunned/ignored…  I think this discourages a lot of "newbies" from coming in… But, for the few negative responses, the amount of positive feedback/communication is usually greater.  Try not to take it personal, you’ve got something to contribute…. -Chuck

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Troll I have come across the word ‘Troll’ here often, and I suppose should have some idea of its meaning here, by now! Think of fishing by trolling. This, for apparently having a different view from someone else (( It is thus apparently used as a general term of abuse especially if you don’t like what the other person has said – or perhaps as a defence if you’ve been caught-out bullshitting. Regards    John Riley    West Oz

 oops…….and I thought I knew, thought that it comes from them  nasty primates (Scandinavian folklore) that hide under  bridges to catch little innocent kids, and maybe to chew them up. (never for once I  have thought it is from fishing… trawl/troll..) Thanks John, it is most informative

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Troll – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I would like to remove a Mimosa tree from my property.  Is there anything I can do to kill the tree before trying to dig it out?  Some kind of poison that would make it easier to remove? Loomis

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Troll

Thank you for being receptive to another person’s problem.

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Loomis: Fresh, green trees are much easier to saw than dead ones.  Be sure the saw is sharp.  Green trees are also much easier to cut up using loppers and clipperes.  Anti-freeze is a toxic chemical and should never be poured on the ground or into drains.  Draining car radiators should be done by a shop that captures the fluid.  You really should rethink the poison idea.

Thank you for your wise words.  I will take them to heart. Probably end up calling someone to remove the tree for me. Thanks to all who responded. Loomis

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Troll Thank you for being receptive to another person’s problem.

I have come across the word ‘Troll’ here often, and I suppose should have some idea of its meaning here, by now! However, I hope someone here would enlighten me as to its exact meaning as refered to here, and if relevent how this word comes about in this context.

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Troll Thank you for being receptive to another person’s problem. I have come across the word ‘Troll’ here often, and I suppose should have some idea of its meaning here, by now! However, I hope someone here would enlighten me as to its exact meaning as refered to here, and if relevent how this word comes about in this context.

Think of fishing by trolling. Post something controversial and preferably idiotic as a lure and see how many "fishies" bite. I believe there is a group or groups who have trolling competitions and if you can get 109 responses to just one post without having to "stir the pot" with further posts, you win some kind of trophy. This number is from some years ago and has probably been well and truly superceded by now. These people correspond off the group by email. In some groups there are famous trollers who are suspected of being a construction of several other "normal" posters  (either that, or they have multiple personalities as their styles seem to change from time to time.) In this group, I have been called a troll for the first time! I am not! This, for apparently having a different view from someone else (( It is thus apparently used as a general term of abuse especially if you don’t like what the other person has said – or perhaps as a defence if you’ve been caught-out bullshitting. Regards    John Riley    West Oz

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I would like to remove a Mimosa tree from my property.  Is there anything I can do to kill the tree before trying to dig it out?  Some kind of poison that would make it easier to remove? Loomis

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I would like to remove a Mimosa tree from my property.  Is there anything I can do to kill the tree before trying to dig it out?  Some kind of poison that would make it easier to remove? Loomis

I didn’t get very good grades in physics, but how is a poison (herbicide?) going to change the weight or density of the remaining stump and roots? Mimosa roots aren’t very civilized.  They run to hell and back, way past the drip line. To try to eliminate the roots can make a mess of your landscaping.  Have you considered renting a stump grinder, and leaving the roots to decompose? It would sure be a lot less work. Zhan

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would like to remove a Mimosa tree from my property.  Is there anything I can do to kill the tree before trying to dig it out?  Some kind of poison that would make it easier to remove? Loomis I didn’t get very good grades in physics, but how is a poison (herbicide?) going to change the weight or density of the remaining stump and roots? Mimosa roots aren’t very civilized.  They run to hell and back, way past the drip line. To try to eliminate the roots can make a mess of your landscaping.  Have you considered renting a stump grinder, and leaving the roots to decompose? It would sure be a lot less work.

Well, the tree is fairly young so the trunk is not too thick.  I thought if I poisoned the tree, it would be easier to saw the trunk through and then I could just leave the roots in the ground.  I was just wandering what might be useful for such poisoning, antifreeze perhaps? Loomis

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Well, the tree is fairly young so the trunk is not too thick.  I thought if I poisoned the tree, it would be easier to saw the trunk through and then I could just leave the roots in the ground.  I was just wandering what might be useful for such poisoning, antifreeze perhaps? Loomis

We recently  had to take out a magnolia.  The trunk was about 8 inches in diameter.  I left the stump about 4 ft tall and put a tray feeder for the birds on it. The tree tried to push out new growth, I just rubbed those off with my thumb. I don’t know that the mimosa will pull the antifreeze down to the root system to acomplish what you want.  Maybe so.  I do know where ever the anti freeze is in your soil, that spot will be sterile for about a year.  And that’s with an exceptional perk rate, making the assumption the antifreeze will go straight down and not travel laterally. Based on my experiences pruning.  I think the moisture in live wood is lots easier to saw than dead wood. I’m not an arborist, so you might want to wait for a second opinion. Zhan

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Loomis: Fresh, green trees are much easier to saw than dead ones.  Be sure the saw is sharp.  Green trees are also much easier to cut up using loppers and clipperes.  Anti-freeze is a toxic chemical and should never be poured on the ground or into drains.  Draining car radiators should be done by a shop that captures the fluid.  You really should rethink the poison idea. If you just cut off the trunk of the tree without removing the roots, it will come back.  There are stump desolver chemicals (also nasty) you can purchase or you can hire a tree service to grind out the stump.  If the tree is small, then dig up the roots as much as you can.  Mimosas are pretty weedy and will continue to send up shoots to be cut off for some time. Bracey – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would like to remove a Mimosa tree from my property.  Is there anything I can do to kill the tree before trying to dig it out?  Some kind of poison that would make it easier to remove? Loomis I didn’t get very good grades in physics, but how is a poison (herbicide?) going to change the weight or density of the remaining stump and roots? Mimosa roots aren’t very civilized.  They run to hell and back, way past the drip line. To try to eliminate the roots can make a mess of your landscaping.  Have you considered renting a stump grinder, and leaving the roots to decompose? It would sure be a lot less work. Well, the tree is fairly young so the trunk is not too thick.  I thought if I poisoned the tree, it would be easier to saw the trunk through and then I could just leave the roots in the ground.  I was just wandering what might be useful for such poisoning, antifreeze perhaps? Loomis

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