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oooops, i looked at it and i was thinking of a hedge hog… ouch for the spines of the porcupines !!!! now that i realize what they are… thanks :) phoenix — . ????? porcupines are vegitarians…they eat plants…unless they’re small

enough to pollinate my flowers i’ll let them stay in the wild where they belong and out of my carrot patch.. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – don’t mean to interfere but as you are gardening, do you know that you do want a porcupine in your garden??? those little animals are really good for a healthy garden!!!  :) but i do understand the problem with the puppy… when Nina was younger she barked hours outside one night while it was freezing, and gosh i got annoyed, but usually after a short while she would just come back on her own, but not this time, so i put on some clothes and went to look for her… she was mad at a porcupine, so mad that she made a  big hole in a circle around the animal who was standing at the top of that monticule…!!! i took her home, and i looked at her, she got a bit hurt but it seems more in the fact that she couldn’t get it…. she always kept her instinct of a hunter but she was hunting only wild animals… phoenix no gardening this year, because i’ve got to change house this month (the papers were signed yesterday) but i am worried about the flowers and plants i do want to bring with me…. worried also because the geese had babies, they are so cuuuuuute, but how to get them, and also one of the chiken is on the nest…. the moving is going to be really special !!!!!

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baking soda is a base..boric acid is a well..acid.  they’re opposites.  boric acid is a very mild acid that many people use as a foot soak. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is that the same as baking soda?  I’m pretty sure I’ve seen some products at the vets.  I tried the tomato juice one time with Rusty – it didn’t work. Hi jeeco, how are ya !!!! :-) Hopefully I won’t be the one to make the mix ;-) jeeco —

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the one who hasn’t eaten yet that day? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In article Wait till he finds a skunk.  (Keep lots of tomato juice and clothes pens on hand.) Shar LOL, I loved that!!! And…..Andy is out turning over a portion of the garden for….what????  Yeah…..the potatoes!! oh, i wanna see tha potato…. oh, i am so scared to spell that word since dan q. ;) love, t. LOL, yeah I know what you mean <G Turned into quite a day.  Poor Spike Jr met his first porcupine yesterday.  Ohhhh poor thing!  He got the quills in this snout and under his chin.  Luckily they have a vet on call and we got him in at 7PM; he had said hello to the porcupine at about 6PM.  Andy drove home frantically and walked in the door hollering Call a Vet Call a Vet!!!! Puppy was like…say what?  Hi Momma how are you! We had an adventure today!!!  Andy was a wreck!  Spike Jr is fine, he had to sleep over at the vet (which I’m sure was more traumatic for him than the quills – he’s never been away from us).  He did make sure he kissed the secretary goodbye before he left though <G Such a gentleman!  This afternoon, Spike Andy and I went back to the land with Andy with pellet gun and crossbow in hand and goin a huntin.  (Porcupine got away <G) Panther So far we haven’t seen any skunk on the land (Panther keeping fingers crossed).  My other dogs have gotten into skunk. No experience quite like it!!!  Yup we were talking the other day about getting some emergency skunk remedy ready for the day it happens <G  Hummmm….wonder which one of us gets the pleasure of bathing him!

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so far as i know canada doesn’t have lovely little hedgehogs except as pets.  to the best of my knowledge they’re imported from england. the best we can hope for by putting out milk is a raccoon..or fox…or coyote…or mice..or rats (shudder) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – message de LOL, I loved that!!! And…..Andy is out turning over a portion of the garden for….what????  Yeah…..the potatoes!! oh, i wanna see tha potato…. oh, i am so scared to spell that word since dan q. ;) love, t. LOL, yeah I know what you mean <G Turned into quite a day.  Poor Spike Jr met his first porcupine yesterday.  Ohhhh poor thing!  He got the quills in this snout and under his chin.  Luckily they have a vet on call and we got him in at 7PM; he had said hello to the porcupine at about 6PM.  Andy drove home frantically and walked in the door hollering Call a Vet Call a Vet!!!! Puppy was like…say what?  Hi Momma how are you! We had an adventure today!!!  Andy was a wreck!  Spike Jr is fine, he had to sleep over at the vet (which I’m sure was more traumatic for him than the quills – he’s never been away from us).  He did make sure he kissed the secretary goodbye before he left though <G Such a gentleman!  This afternoon, Spike Andy and I went back to the land with Andy with pellet gun and crossbow in hand and goin a huntin.  (Porcupine got away <G) Panther don’t mean to interfere but as you are gardening, do you know that you do want a porcupine in your garden??? those little animals are really good for a healthy garden!!! :) but i do understand the problem with the puppy… when Nina was younger she barked hours outside one night while it was freezing, and gosh i got annoyed, but usually after a short while she would just come back on her own, but not this time, so i put on some clothes and went to look for her… she was mad at a porcupine, so mad that she made a  big hole in a circle around the animal who was standing at the top of that monticule…!!! i took her home, and i looked at her, she got a bit hurt but it seems more in the fact that she couldn’t get it…. she always kept her instinct of a hunter but she was hunting only wild animals… phoenix no gardening this year, because i’ve got to change house this month (the papers were signed yesterday) but i am worried about the flowers and plants i do want to bring with me…. worried also because the geese had babies, they are so cuuuuuute, but how to get them, and also one of the chiken is on the nest…. the moving is going to be really special !!!!! $380 later we decided we’d rather shoot the sob!!!! They eat bark and plants.  In an area not far from the garden I had cleared out a lot of brush and trimmed the evergreens and tamarack.  It looks like a mini park and we noticed that they are also eating the bark in there. As far as we know they didn’t get at our garden last year – the rabbits ate that first <G  Spike had gotten nailed in the large pine forest though not close to our gardens. I hear the native peoples make earrings and jewlery out of porcupine quills.  Gee, maybe I’ll get a market for them <G Panther as i said i make a mistake and thought about hedge hog… I read this one first and didn’t see the other one till later :-) it’s indeed not the same thing… hehehehe hey, i never said that i knew lots of things !!!! i am discovering everydays … but if you like to have a hedge hog in your garden you can put a plate with some milk in the middle of your garden… :) but maybe there are ways to keep them at distance other than only shoting them? if the native peoples makes such nice things, maybe some might know if there are alternatives to keep them away, some plants they might particularly diskile the smell… I doubt it will have that fate :-)  - well not unless I develop a taste for porcupine stew.  If they really get to be a nuisance we’ll most likely trap it and drop it off someplace else. that’s nice and gentle ..!!! the rabbits are a bother but i must recognize that i have two solutions here, one of my dog and my cat are hunters and catch them…. otherwise here i have deers in the garden, of course the dogs are having fun chasing and barking at them, but someone discovered that they disliked the color blue, so i bought some paint for the well to make it blue and also some different flowers all blue to make on the side they are coming from, a woman i know off use hairs that she puts in small stokings packages and put around her garden, because they dislike human smell…. That’s interesting about the blue color – weird!  In reading I did discover that with the porcupine they LOVE wood that has been touched by humans.  They crave the salt (guess when your hands sweat).  Re the rabbits, we’re investing in some good fencing for around the garden.  Most likely a combination of wood/wire/ and electric. yes, but the rabbits might very well go under the wire…. the only thing i had about a way to avoid them from the garden is to dig a trough around the garden and to fill it with broken pieces of cans, irons or glass, they suggest to make it 20 cm wide and 40 cm deep…. there are very often alternatives and some can be fun… sorry for your dog and you, all that has been finally painful for all of you out there including the porcupine … Well so far the porcupine is the only one who has not felt the pain <smile.  Spike saw his first box turtle today.  At 2 feet he was cautions, most likely saying to himself – now WHAT is this critter going to do!! Panther seems like Spike has lots of very interesting adventures in his life, sound great and it must be fun also to see…. i am glad you are enjoying him :) phoenix — "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell

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Thought you’d enjoy a nice sized small mouth bass.  It was caught last fall.  This year I’m going for pikerel and muskie.

Nice bass :) } I had a drainage problem on the farm, and it turned out that having a pond dug, using that dirt was the same cost as having dirt hauled in, or the necessarf fields tiled.  You can guess which option I chose :) } And, I built the ex a gazebo in return for her otherwise reluctant agreement to let me take the dirt from the front yard.  I used to cast from the front porch on rainy days, walk that wee bit to the pond’s edge on sunny ones :) } The other two are my new grandchildren this last year <G

Beautiful :) } And God, don’tcha love em?  I only have one, though I’ve mentioned to my now single sons that I expect a new one every two or three years.  Shucks, I’ll even try matchmaking.  The one I do have, though, is a leg-warmer.  Thru the front door, latch onto Grandpa’s leg, and the rest of the family see’s me again when she’s damned good and ready to let me go back to em :) } http://www.asarian-intl.org/fishing.html Panther

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – message de message de LOL, I loved that!!! And…..Andy is out turning over a portion of the garden for….what????  Yeah…..the potatoes!! oh, i wanna see tha potato…. oh, i am so scared to spell that word since dan q. ;) love, t. LOL, yeah I know what you mean <G Turned into quite a day.  Poor Spike Jr met his first porcupine yesterday.  Ohhhh poor thing!  He got the quills in this snout and under his chin.  Luckily they have a vet on call and we got him in at 7PM; he had said hello to the porcupine at about 6PM.  Andy drove home frantically and walked in the door hollering Call a Vet Call a Vet!!!! Puppy was like…say what?  Hi Momma how are you! We had an adventure today!!!  Andy was a wreck!  Spike Jr is fine, he had to sleep over at the vet (which I’m sure was more traumatic for him than the quills – he’s never been away from us).  He did make sure he kissed the secretary goodbye before he left though <G Such a gentleman!  This afternoon, Spike Andy and I went back to the land with Andy with pellet gun and crossbow in hand and goin a huntin.  (Porcupine got away <G) Panther don’t mean to interfere but as you are gardening, do you know that you do want a porcupine in your garden??? those little animals are really good for a healthy garden!!!  :) but i do understand the problem with the puppy… when Nina was younger she barked hours outside one night while it was freezing, and gosh i got annoyed, but usually after a short while she would just come back on her own, but not this time, so i put on some clothes and went to look for her… she was mad at a porcupine, so mad that she made a  big hole in a circle around the animal who was standing at the top of that monticule…!!! i took her home, and i looked at her, she got a bit hurt but it seems more in the fact that she couldn’t get it…. she always kept her instinct of a hunter but she was hunting only wild animals… phoenix no gardening this year, because i’ve got to change house this month (the papers were signed yesterday) but i am worried about the flowers and plants i do want to bring with me…. worried also because the geese had babies, they are so cuuuuuute, but how to get them, and also one of the chiken is on the nest…. the moving is going to be really special !!!!! $380 later we decided we’d rather shoot the sob!!!! They eat bark and plants.  In an area not far from the garden I had cleared out a lot of brush and trimmed the evergreens and tamarack.  It looks like a mini park and we noticed that they are also eating the bark in there. As far as we know they didn’t get at our garden last year – the rabbits ate that first <G  Spike had gotten nailed in the large pine forest though not close to our gardens. I hear the native peoples make earrings and jewlery out of porcupine quills.  Gee, maybe I’ll get a market for them <G Panther as i said i make a mistake and thought about hedge hog… I read this one first and didn’t see the other one till later :-) it’s indeed not the same thing… hehehehe hey, i never said that i knew lots of things !!!! i am discovering everydays … but if you like to have a hedge hog in your garden you can put a plate with some milk in the middle of your garden… :) Why milk in the middle of the garden?

so, that a gentle hedge hog decide to install his house around your garden and become your friend  :) they also like one egg from time to time… phoenix

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 Re the rabbits, we’re investing in some good fencing for around the garden.  Most likely a combination of wood/wire/ and electric.

Rabbits dig, so keep that in mind when making a fence. Shar

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In article The farmers around my neighborhood in Vermont had tons of neat extras.  One was really sweet one day.  I was out trying to put in some fence posts and he drove by.  He said, I’m just driving by and have an auger (or whatever they call it)attached. Would you like me to do a few holes for you? You never saw a bigger smile on my face!!

Before I got my own tractor, I’d get the odd farmer out plowing the dirt road many of us lived on, who would turn up my 250 foot driveway, clear the snow and just drive away without looking for thanks.  Good folks! And, if you don’t have any local sources, I’ll be *glad* to talk about features and gadgets whenever you do start to buy.  I talk tractor the same way some guys talk football, with enthusiasm.  Of course, I’ll suffer from "tractor envy" if you *do* get one, but I’ll cope :) } Well when we’re ready I’ll pick your brain <G  AND, when we get it I’ll send you some snap shots <EG

There’s a great free publication called "Farmers Hotline" which is an equipment catalog combined with used tractors for sale all over.  Dunno how to subscribe any more, but I bet you can find it on the web. Panther

Oooooh!  Better than pinups!  :)} Well, OK, at least "damn near as good"  :)} SpiritQuest

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Wait till he finds a skunk.  (Keep lots of tomato juice and clothes pens on hand.) Shar

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – LOL, I loved that!!! And…..Andy is out turning over a portion of the garden for….what????  Yeah…..the potatoes!! oh, i wanna see tha potato…. oh, i am so scared to spell that word since dan q. ;) love, t. LOL, yeah I know what you mean <G Turned into quite a day.  Poor Spike Jr met his first porcupine yesterday.  Ohhhh poor thing!  He got the quills in this snout and under his chin.  Luckily they have a vet on call and we got him in at 7PM; he had said hello to the porcupine at about 6PM.  Andy drove home frantically and walked in the door hollering Call a Vet Call a Vet!!!! Puppy was like…say what?  Hi Momma how are you! We had an adventure today!!!  Andy was a wreck!  Spike Jr is fine, he had to sleep over at the vet (which I’m sure was more traumatic for him than the quills – he’s never been away from us).  He did make sure he kissed the secretary goodbye before he left though <G Such a gentleman!  This afternoon, Spike Andy and I went back to the land with Andy with pellet gun and crossbow in hand and goin a huntin.  (Porcupine got away <G) Panther — Free Anonymous Email Accounts & WebHosting for sexual abuse survivors http://www.asarian-intl.org http://www.asar-intl.com http://www.asarian-intl.org/inpsyte

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – message de LOL, I loved that!!! And…..Andy is out turning over a portion of the garden for….what????  Yeah…..the potatoes!! oh, i wanna see tha potato…. oh, i am so scared to spell that word since dan q. ;) love, t. LOL, yeah I know what you mean <G Turned into quite a day.  Poor Spike Jr met his first porcupine yesterday.  Ohhhh poor thing!  He got the quills in this snout and under his chin.  Luckily they have a vet on call and we got him in at 7PM; he had said hello to the porcupine at about 6PM.  Andy drove home frantically and walked in the door hollering Call a Vet Call a Vet!!!! Puppy was like…say what?  Hi Momma how are you! We had an adventure today!!!  Andy was a wreck!  Spike Jr is fine, he had to sleep over at the vet (which I’m sure was more traumatic for him than the quills – he’s never been away from us).  He did make sure he kissed the secretary goodbye before he left though <G Such a gentleman!  This afternoon, Spike Andy and I went back to the land with Andy with pellet gun and crossbow in hand and goin a huntin.  (Porcupine got away <G) Panther don’t mean to interfere but as you are gardening, do you know that you do want a porcupine in your garden??? those little animals are really good for a healthy garden!!!  :) but i do understand the problem with the puppy… when Nina was younger she barked hours outside one night while it was freezing, and gosh i got annoyed, but usually after a short while she would just come back on her own, but not this time, so i put on some clothes and went to look for her… she was mad at a porcupine, so mad that she made a  big hole in a circle around the animal who was standing at the top of that monticule…!!! i took her home, and i looked at her, she got a bit hurt but it seems more in the fact that she couldn’t get it…. she always kept her instinct of a hunter but she was hunting only wild animals… phoenix no gardening this year, because i’ve got to change house this month (the papers were signed yesterday) but i am worried about the flowers and plants i do want to bring with me…. worried also because the geese had babies, they are so cuuuuuute, but how to get them, and also one of the chiken is on the nest…. the moving is going to be really special !!!!! $380 later we decided we’d rather shoot the sob!!!! They eat bark and plants.  In an area not far from the garden I had cleared out a lot of brush and trimmed the evergreens and tamarack.  It looks like a mini park and we noticed that they are also eating the bark in there. As far as we know they didn’t get at our garden last year – the rabbits ate that first <G  Spike had gotten nailed in the large pine forest though not close to our gardens. I hear the native peoples make earrings and jewlery out of porcupine quills.  Gee, maybe I’ll get a market for them <G Panther as i said i make a mistake and thought about hedge hog… I read this one first and didn’t see the other one till later :-) it’s indeed not the same thing… hehehehe

hey, i never said that i knew lots of things !!!! i am discovering everydays … but if you like to have a hedge hog in your garden you can put a plate with some milk in the middle of your garden… :) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – but maybe there are ways to keep them at distance other than only shoting them? if the native peoples makes such nice things, maybe some might know if there are alternatives to keep them away, some plants they might particularly diskile the smell… I doubt it will have that fate :-)  - well not unless I develop a taste for porcupine stew.  If they really get to be a nuisance we’ll most likely trap it and drop it off someplace else.

that’s nice and gentle ..!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the rabbits are a bother but i must recognize that i have two solutions here, one of my dog and my cat are hunters and catch them…. otherwise here i have deers in the garden, of course the dogs are having fun chasing and barking at them, but someone discovered that they disliked the color blue, so i bought some paint for the well to make it blue and also some different flowers all blue to make on the side they are coming from, a woman i know off use hairs that she puts in small stokings packages and put around her garden, because they dislike human smell…. That’s interesting about the blue color – weird!  In reading I did discover that with the porcupine they LOVE wood that has been touched by humans.  They crave the salt (guess when your hands sweat).  Re the rabbits, we’re investing in some good fencing for around the garden.  Most likely a combination of wood/wire/ and electric.

yes, but the rabbits might very well go under the wire…. the only thing i had about a way to avoid them from the garden is to dig a trough around the garden and to fill it with broken pieces of cans, irons or glass, they suggest to make it 20 cm wide and 40 cm deep…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – there are very often alternatives and some can be fun… sorry for your dog and you, all that has been finally painful for all of you out there including the porcupine … Well so far the porcupine is the only one who has not felt the pain <smile.  Spike saw his first box turtle today.  At 2 feet he was cautions, most likely saying to himself – now WHAT is this critter going to do!! Panther

seems like Spike has lots of very interesting adventures in his life, sound great and it must be fun also to see…. i am glad you are enjoying him :) phoenix — "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell

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Actually that is a terrific idea.  I forgot about that but it certainly helped when I first moved to Vermont (was just starting to raise sheep at the time).  The farmers were so funny too!  There seems to be a few farms down a ways from our place :-)  Maybe when they are finished with their mowing and haying they might like to till ours?  Some of the farmers in Vermont around us did that for extra cash. Panther

Betcha you’d be surprised at the prices on used tractors.  One like the one you’d need for a place your size oughta come in about 1-2000 bucks.  Where I live (and I doubt that it’s unique) has dealers for the older tractors who give you a pretty good 1 year warranty on the ones that they have rebuilt, since they don’t want to be known as selling bad stuff, and they usually bought it from a farmer who is "moving up" to newer or often larger equipment. Besides, there’s just something about owning your own tractor :) } SpiritQuest Allis-Chalmers WD45  vintage 1960’s

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In article Besides, there’s just something about owning your own tractor :) } SpiritQuest Allis-Chalmers WD45  vintage 1960’s We do have a Deere outlet or two within a fifty mile radius and I think sooner or later we’ll have to invest in one.  At this stage we need EVERYTHING!  I think before we out and out purchase one we’ll have to see how our experimental garden goes.  A couple of horses are on our list also for a year or two down the line (lots of fences to build) <G.  Ohhhhh and once the water heats up a little we have LOTS of fishing to do, so we need to invest in at least a small motor boat.  I mean….everyone should also own their own boat for fishing, right? :-)  Now I have to admit the bobcat was a fun toy.  After the first week Andy had me driving it. Frankly I liked it better when I could sit in the bucket (on a chair) and he’d lift the bucket and down to the lake we would go!  Casting from a raised bucket is a fun way to fish <G

I always wanted to find a reason to buy a bobcat.  I had a frontloader for the tractor, but bobcats get into small places and turns so much better. And, the fences are *excellent* reasons for getting a tractor.  The augers that go on the back can put down holes in a flash. And, if you don’t have any local sources, I’ll be *glad* to talk about features and gadgets whenever you do start to buy.  I talk tractor the same way some guys talk football, with enthusiasm.  Of course, I’ll suffer from "tractor envy" if you *do* get one, but I’ll cope :) } SpiritQuest jammin gears

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hehehehe.  this is cute.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Love it.   If it was a New England farm it would be a fantastic example of Yankee ingenuity! jeeco An old man lived alone in Idaho. He wanted to spade his potato garden, but it was very hard work. His only son, Bubba, who used to help him, was in prison. The old man wrote a letter to his son and described his predicament – Dear Bubba, I am feeling pretty bad because it looks like I won’t be able to plant my potato garden this year. I’m just getting too old to be digging up a garden plot. If you were here, all my troubles would be over. I know you would dig the plot for me. A few days later he received a letter from his son – Dear Dad, for heaven’s sake, Dad, don’t dig up that garden, that’s where I buried the BODIES. Love Bubba At 4 am the next morning, FBI agents and local police showed up and dug up the entire area without finding any bodies. They apologized to the old man and left. That same day the old man received another letter from his son. Dear Dad, Go ahead and plant the potatoes now. That’s the best I could do under the circumstances. ….Love Bubba Ask me about HOPE for kids. No, really, *ask* *me*!!!! http://www.hopeworldwide.org — For more information about this NNTP posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – LOL, I loved that!!! And…..Andy is out turning over a portion of the garden for….what????  Yeah…..the potatoes!! oh, i wanna see tha potato…. oh, i am so scared to spell that word since dan q. ;) love, t. LOL, yeah I know what you mean <G Turned into quite a day.  Poor Spike Jr met his first porcupine yesterday.  Ohhhh poor thing!  He got the quills in this snout and under his chin.  Luckily they have a vet on call and we got him in at 7PM; he had said hello to the porcupine at about 6PM.  Andy drove home frantically and walked in the door hollering Call a Vet Call a Vet!!!! Puppy was like…say what?  Hi Momma how are you! We had an adventure today!!!  Andy was a wreck!  Spike Jr is fine, he had to sleep over at the vet (which I’m sure was more traumatic for him than the quills – he’s never been away from us).  He did make sure he kissed the secretary goodbye before he left though <G Such a gentleman!  This afternoon, Spike Andy and I went back to the land with Andy with pellet gun and crossbow in hand and goin a huntin.  (Porcupine got away <G) Panther don’t mean to interfere but as you are gardening, do you know that you do want a porcupine in your garden??? those little animals are really good for a healthy garden!!!  :) but i do understand the problem with the puppy… when Nina was younger she barked hours outside one night while it was freezing, and gosh i got annoyed, but usually after a short while she would just come back on her own, but not this time, so i put on some clothes and went to look for her… she was mad at a porcupine, so mad that she made a  big hole in a circle around the animal who was standing at the top of that monticule…!!! i took her home, and i looked at her, she got a bit hurt but it seems more in the fact that she couldn’t get it…. she always kept her instinct of a hunter but she was hunting only wild animals… phoenix no gardening this year, because i’ve got to change house this month (the papers were signed yesterday) but i am worried about the flowers and plants i do want to bring with me…. worried also because the geese had babies, they are so cuuuuuute, but how to get them, and also one of the chiken is on the nest…. the moving is going to be really special !!!!! $380 later we decided we’d rather shoot the sob!!!! They eat bark and plants.  In an area not far from the garden I had cleared out a lot of brush and trimmed the evergreens and tamarack.  It looks like a mini park and we noticed that they are also eating the bark in there. As far as we know they didn’t get at our garden last year – the rabbits ate that first <G  Spike had gotten nailed in the large pine forest though not close to our gardens. I hear the native peoples make earrings and jewlery out of porcupine quills.  Gee, maybe I’ll get a market for them <G Panther

as i said i make a mistake and thought about hedge hog… it’s indeed not the same thing… but maybe there are ways to keep them at distance other than only shoting them? if the native peoples makes such nice things, maybe some might know if there are alternatives to keep them away, some plants they might particularly diskile the smell… the rabbits are a bother but i must recognize that i have two solutions here, one of my dog and my cat are hunters and catch them…. otherwise here i have deers in the garden, of course the dogs are having fun chasing and barking at them, but someone discovered that they disliked the color blue, so i bought some paint for the well to make it blue and also some different flowers all blue to make on the side they are coming from, a woman i know off use hairs that she puts in small stokings packages and put around her garden, because they dislike human smell…. there are very often alternatives and some can be fun… sorry for your dog and you, all that has been finally painful for all of you out there including the porcupine … :) phoenix

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talk to the farmers around you. ask them who’s a reputable dealer.  you can bet that anyone who cheats a farmer will be out of business tout suite.  if you’re not using a tractor a lot rental will probably be more economical..or perhaps a labour exchange with a neighbour… naomi – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When we rented the bobcat and a rototiller last year to do some of the lanes, gardens etc. The garden is fairly large and at this stage is more experimental to see what works best. We’ll then do some larger crops next year.   My quess is we’ll have to rent a tractor or purchase one then.  We have 35 acres which we could till when we decide.  We are trying grapes also and I’m hoping they work out nice.  The John Deere’s run a little less cost wise in comparison to the Internations doesn’t it?  I’m wary of purchasing something second hand because you really don’t know if it will work properly :-( Panther if’n you’re doing a large dig out perhaps using a plow?  if it’s smaller going over the ground a few times with a rototiller would work…or is the plow what the bobcat is?  i’m used to the brands of "john deere" and "international harvester" for that sort of work I kinda expect that the dillos prefer warm weather too <G  Sooooo, I suspect we’ll either do manual labor (hummmm no that would not be a "we") or we’ll rent the bobcat again in which case it will be a "we" effort.   When it comes to digging I only do the flower gardens, and then only if I "have" too. I think Edith’s roses may have made it through the first winter!  Not sure about one though.   X-No-Archive: yes It would be cool if you could get them to dig where you want them to but the iron clad dillos like to dig *under the plants which isn’t helpful. I suggested to Andy that if we want the garden dug up then we should get a few pigs, place them where we want our next garden and let them go to work.<G We’re surprised we haven’t seen any gophers yet. Panther It would be kind of like inviting an amadillo into your garden.  No thanks. They dig everything up. ????? porcupines are vegitarians…they eat plants…unless they’re small enough to pollinate my flowers i’ll let them stay in the wild where they belong and out of my carrot patch.. don’t mean to interfere but as you are gardening, do you know that you do want a porcupine in your garden??? those little animals are really good for a healthy garden!!! :) but i do understand the problem with the puppy… when Nina was younger she barked hours outside one night while it was freezing, and gosh i got annoyed, but usually after a short while she would just come back on her own, but not this time, so i put on some clothes and went to look for her… she was mad at a porcupine, so mad that she made a  big hole in a circle around the animal who was standing at the top of that monticule…!!! i took her home, and i looked at her, she got a bit hurt but it seems more in the fact that she couldn’t get it…. she always kept her instinct of a hunter but she was hunting only wild animals… phoenix no gardening this year, because i’ve got to change house this month (the papers were signed yesterday) but i am worried about the flowers and plants i do want to bring with me…. worried also because the geese had babies, they are so cuuuuuute, but how to get them, and also one of the chiken is on the nest…. the moving is going to be really special !!!!!

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I think Edith’s roses may have made it through the first winter!  Not sure about one though.

Edith’s roses?  kewl! azure, sentimental softy

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if’n you’re doing a large dig out perhaps using a plow?  if it’s smaller going over the ground a few times with a rototiller would work…or is the plow what the bobcat is?  i’m used to the brands of "john deere" and "international harvester" for that sort of work – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I kinda expect that the dillos prefer warm weather too <G  Sooooo, I suspect we’ll either do manual labor (hummmm no that would not be a "we") or we’ll rent the bobcat again in which case it will be a "we" effort.   When it comes to digging I only do the flower gardens, and then only if I "have" too. I think Edith’s roses may have made it through the first winter!  Not sure about one though.   X-No-Archive: yes It would be cool if you could get them to dig where you want them to but the iron clad dillos like to dig *under the plants which isn’t helpful. I suggested to Andy that if we want the garden dug up then we should get a few pigs, place them where we want our next garden and let them go to work.<G We’re surprised we haven’t seen any gophers yet. Panther It would be kind of like inviting an amadillo into your garden.  No thanks. They dig everything up. ????? porcupines are vegitarians…they eat plants…unless they’re small enough to pollinate my flowers i’ll let them stay in the wild where they belong and out of my carrot patch.. don’t mean to interfere but as you are gardening, do you know that you do want a porcupine in your garden??? those little animals are really good for a healthy garden!!! :) but i do understand the problem with the puppy… when Nina was younger she barked hours outside one night while it was freezing, and gosh i got annoyed, but usually after a short while she would just come back on her own, but not this time, so i put on some clothes and went to look for her… she was mad at a porcupine, so mad that she made a  big hole in a circle around the animal who was standing at the top of that monticule…!!! i took her home, and i looked at her, she got a bit hurt but it seems more in the fact that she couldn’t get it…. she always kept her instinct of a hunter but she was hunting only wild animals… phoenix no gardening this year, because i’ve got to change house this month (the papers were signed yesterday) but i am worried about the flowers and plants i do want to bring with me…. worried also because the geese had babies, they are so cuuuuuute, but how to get them, and also one of the chiken is on the nest…. the moving is going to be really special !!!!! —

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we have a plethora of the rodents here…the gopher hunt has already started… i’m sure the premier will be happy to ship out say…5 or 10 million – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I suggested to Andy that if we want the garden dug up then we should get a few pigs, place them where we want our next garden and let them go to work.<G We’re surprised we haven’t seen any gophers yet. Panther X-No-Archive: yes It would be kind of like inviting an amadillo into your garden.  No thanks. They dig everything up. ????? porcupines are vegitarians…they eat plants…unless they’re small enough to pollinate my flowers i’ll let them stay in the wild where they belong and out of my carrot patch.. don’t mean to interfere but as you are gardening, do you know that you do want a porcupine in your garden??? those little animals are really good for a healthy garden!!! :) but i do understand the problem with the puppy… when Nina was younger she barked hours outside one night while it was freezing, and gosh i got annoyed, but usually after a short while she would just come back on her own, but not this time, so i put on some clothes and went to look for her… she was mad at a porcupine, so mad that she made a  big hole in a circle around the animal who was standing at the top of that monticule…!!! i took her home, and i looked at her, she got a bit hurt but it seems more in the fact that she couldn’t get it…. she always kept her instinct of a hunter but she was hunting only wild animals… phoenix no gardening this year, because i’ve got to change house this month (the papers were signed yesterday) but i am worried about the flowers and plants i do want to bring with me…. worried also because the geese had babies, they are so cuuuuuute, but how to get them, and also one of the chiken is on the nest…. the moving is going to be really special !!!!!

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????? porcupines are vegitarians…they eat plants…unless they’re small enough to pollinate my flowers i’ll let them stay in the wild where they belong and out of my carrot patch.. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – don’t mean to interfere but as you are gardening, do you know that you do want a porcupine in your garden??? those little animals are really good for a healthy garden!!!  :) but i do understand the problem with the puppy… when Nina was younger she barked hours outside one night while it was freezing, and gosh i got annoyed, but usually after a short while she would just come back on her own, but not this time, so i put on some clothes and went to look for her… she was mad at a porcupine, so mad that she made a  big hole in a circle around the animal who was standing at the top of that monticule…!!! i took her home, and i looked at her, she got a bit hurt but it seems more in the fact that she couldn’t get it…. she always kept her instinct of a hunter but she was hunting only wild animals… phoenix no gardening this year, because i’ve got to change house this month (the papers were signed yesterday) but i am worried about the flowers and plants i do want to bring with me…. worried also because the geese had babies, they are so cuuuuuute, but how to get them, and also one of the chiken is on the nest…. the moving is going to be really special !!!!!

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Love it. If it was a New England farm it would be a fantastic example of Yankee ingenuity!

yeah, we yanks ain’t that dumb, is we? ;) peas, t. of embies jeeco

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – LOL, I loved that!!! And…..Andy is out turning over a portion of the garden for….what????  Yeah…..the potatoes!! oh, i wanna see tha potato…. oh, i am so scared to spell that word since dan q. ;) love, t. LOL, yeah I know what you mean <G Turned into quite a day.  Poor Spike Jr met his first porcupine yesterday.  Ohhhh poor thing!  He got the quills in this snout and under his chin.  Luckily they have a vet on call and we got him in at 7PM; he had said hello to the porcupine at about 6PM.  Andy drove home frantically and walked in the door hollering Call a Vet Call a Vet!!!! Puppy was like…say what?  Hi Momma how are you! We had an adventure today!!!  Andy was a wreck!  Spike Jr is fine, he had to sleep over at the vet (which I’m sure was more traumatic for him than the quills – he’s never been away from us).  He did make sure he kissed the secretary goodbye before he left though <G Such a gentleman!  This afternoon, Spike Andy and I went back to the land with Andy with pellet gun and crossbow in hand and goin a huntin.  (Porcupine got away <G) Panther

don’t mean to interfere but as you are gardening, do you know that you do want a porcupine in your garden??? those little animals are really good for a healthy garden!!!  :) but i do understand the problem with the puppy… when Nina was younger she barked hours outside one night while it was freezing, and gosh i got annoyed, but usually after a short while she would just come back on her own, but not this time, so i put on some clothes and went to look for her… she was mad at a porcupine, so mad that she made a  big hole in a circle around the animal who was standing at the top of that monticule…!!! i took her home, and i looked at her, she got a bit hurt but it seems more in the fact that she couldn’t get it…. she always kept her instinct of a hunter but she was hunting only wild animals… phoenix no gardening this year, because i’ve got to change house this month (the papers were signed yesterday) but i am worried about the flowers and plants i do want to bring with me…. worried also because the geese had babies, they are so cuuuuuute, but how to get them, and also one of the chiken is on the nest…. the moving is going to be really special !!!!!

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LOL, I loved that!!! And…..Andy is out turning over a portion of the garden for….what????  Yeah…..the potatoes!!

oh, i wanna see tha potato…. oh, i am so scared to spell that word since dan q. ;) love, t. Ask me about HOPE for kids. No, really, *ask* *me*!!!! http://www.hopeworldwide.org — For more information about this posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

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Love it.   If it was a New England farm it would be a fantastic example of Yankee ingenuity! jeeco

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I love it! — Life: A board game, a magazine, a cellular automaton, and a cereal.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – An old man lived alone in Idaho. He wanted to spade his potato garden, but it was very hard work. His only son, Bubba, who used to help him, was in prison. The old man wrote a letter to his son and described his predicament – Dear Bubba, I am feeling pretty bad because it looks like I won’t be able to plant my potato garden this year. I’m just getting too old to be digging up a garden plot. If you were here, all my troubles would be over. I know you would dig the plot for me. A few days later he received a letter from his son – Dear Dad, for heaven’s sake, Dad, don’t dig up that garden, that’s where I buried the BODIES. Love Bubba At 4 am the next morning, FBI agents and local police showed up and dug up the entire area without finding any bodies. They apologized to the old man and left. That same day the old man received another letter from his son. Dear Dad, Go ahead and plant the potatoes now. That’s the best I could do under the circumstances. ….Love Bubba Ask me about HOPE for kids. No, really, *ask* *me*!!!! http://www.hopeworldwide.org — For more information about this posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

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An old man lived alone in Idaho. He wanted to spade his potato garden, but it was very hard work. His only son, Bubba, who used to help him, was in prison. The old man wrote a letter to his son and described his predicament – Dear Bubba, I am feeling pretty bad because it looks like I won’t be able to plant my potato garden this year. I’m just getting too old to be digging up a garden plot. If you were here, all my troubles would be over. I know you would dig the plot for me. A few days later he received a letter from his son – Dear Dad, for heaven’s sake, Dad, don’t dig up that garden, that’s where I buried the BODIES. Love Bubba At 4 am the next morning, FBI agents and local police showed up and dug up the entire area without finding any bodies. They apologized to the old man and left. That same day the old man received another letter from his son. Dear Dad, Go ahead and plant the potatoes now. That’s the best I could do under the circumstances. ….Love Bubba Ask me about HOPE for kids. No, really, *ask* *me*!!!! http://www.hopeworldwide.org — For more information about this posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

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